Mom424 Mod ManOhMan • 9 days ago
Yes, and they could wear a trench-coat next time. We're on to that one now.
ManOhMan Mom424 • 9 days ago
If they wore a trench coat, they'd be rightfully profiled. If they wear their costumes and claim it is religion, they're more likely to succeed because you're not supposed to suspect them. And since a death cult of trench coat wearing fanatics isn't killing everything on the planet, banning Muslim garb is perfectly fine with me, mom.
ManOhMan Brandon Roberts • 8 days ago
It is known that they do that with Islamic womens dress. It is a classic technique. Not stopping it is irresponsible. Plus, because it is "religious" authorities can't stop and frisk, like they would with other types of concealment.By the way, it is also sexist and degrading for women to wear Islamic clothing, but that is for another day.
p1t1o ManOhMan • 9 days ago
Hiding weapons is not the issue, anyone can do that. Its identity.A regular man walking into a bank with a motorcycle helmet has to take it off, as bank robbers often wear them for a quick getaway, to conceal their ID from cameras+witnesses and as assault protection.A woman in a fullface+body veil can walk into a bank no problem.I remember at least one reported robbery in london where the men were dressed as such on order to hide their identities, and it worked perfectly.
Famous Internet Guy • 4 days ago
"The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men." --Winston Churchill
JS • 6 days ago
Difference between the hijab and the niqag/burka. I don't know anyone who has a problem with the hijab.
Ron Douglas • 7 days ago
Western women traveling or living in Muslim dominated countries must follow dress codes in those countries so why is the same not true for Muslim women in the west? Sorry, but if a western woman cannot wear shorts or a bathing suit in 100 plus degree weather, than Muslim women should obey the laws and customs of the west. I have been to the middle east and Europe where women are covered head to toe while their husbands are in shorts and a t-shirt. What a double standard.
RubyBlue7 Ron Douglas • 7 days ago
The "double standard" applies because those countries have Islam as a national religion and therefore have every right to force tourists to comply with their rules, whereas most western countries don't have a national religion (and do have laws regarding freedom of religion and anti-discrimination) so it's an individuals choice as to how they dress.
ToyBoxofGuns • 8 days ago
Settng aside free expression and freedom of religion, I 100% sympathize with the banning of oppressive practices, but even places where freedom of religion and expression are not guaranteed by law, there are some consequences to banning attire among a fundamentalist religious population.Instead of simply forcing people to integrate or stop the oppressive practices, all it does is further isolate these communities, which they are more than happy to comply with. Living in their own self-contained worlds, they can then do whatever they wish, and have even less accountability and stake in the society around them.These disgusting practices must end, but they must end through cultural and social acclimation and integration, and simply making those who cannot or will not abandon them pariahs will only further fuel fundamentalist hatred and martyr complexes among that population.There is a better way, but I'm not sure what it is just yet. It's not a religious battle or a battle of weapons, it's a battle of culture and ideology, and it is a battle in which oppressive and violent ones need to be conquered with ideas and clear superiority of life and belief.
Duke Vetor • 8 days ago
All free and peaceful Countries should not only demand the removal of the rags that cover these female cult members of islam, but should also demand that the cowardice cult and barbaric illiterate and antiquated hateful practices of this Cult be banned from their country. Muslims and Islam is a cancer and must be stopped in it's tracks, or any free and peaceful country will pay the price and end up living in the sub-human septic tank like all of these cowardice pigs from the Middle East.
Famous Internet Guy • 9 days ago
"The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men." --Winston Churchill
putito • 9 days ago
see more"However, such decisions have led to a great deal of resentment from
non-Muslims living in those regions. Stavropol is one such zone.Says who?And "If there is a great deal of resentment from non-Muslims" how come "A teacher in Stavropol was thought of as a local hero when she refused entry into her classroom to any girls wearing a hijab."?"In 2014, a Brussels diplomat removed the veil of a Qatari princess by
force. The princess and her female companion approached the diplomat,
asking him for directions to a famous monument in the city. He then
removed the women’s face veil, stating that he refused to speak to
anyone with a concealed face and that he could barely hear her beneath
the covering. To add insult to injury, officials still fined the princess for violating the burqa ban."So what if she is a Qatari Princess? Would she wear a bikini in Qatar and say that it is her choice to wear it to be fashionable?"France banned burqas in 2011 and was the first European nation to do so. Not everyone agrees. Many French believe that the law has only increased division and has thus increased violence by Islamic terrorists."Now if that ain't a piece of crock. Who is the "many French" ? A dollar to a doughnut if you ask any French; besides the Muslims, they'll say they not only support the ban but deport anyone Muslim supporting Islamization of French society.These Islamic panderers should stop spewing lies because they will be first on the chopping block when and if Islam takes over! If in doubt just take a good look in countries when Muslims assume power.Even in "moderate Islamic Malaysia" the Muslims are talking about killing infidels, burning Bibles and just lately tearing down the "eagle stature" in Langkawi; a tourist attraction to signify the abundance of eagles in Langkawi island.
TheAvatarofJohnny • 9 days ago
Is the shalwar kamees part of that? I love that on women, not those head scarves though.
Illuminati Recruitment Agency SSG • 8 days ago
No it shouldn't, we have a thing called the First Amendment. I am very proud that we are not like France and these other countries but choose to remain a civil society that respects all religions.
Scott • 9 days ago
correct me if I'm wrong but if 'white women were in Isis controlled territory or Muslim territory for that matter they have to abide by there rules , but if a Muslim is anywhere else they still have to abide by there rules ? Surely this should go both ways ?
Anomandaris Scott • 8 days ago
If white women were in ISIS territory they wouldnt have to worry about what to wear. On account of them being raped and murdered.
Susan Schoner • 9 days ago
These should be banned worldwide! It is very demeaning to women and is equivalent to slavery. BAN THE BURQA AND STOP LETTING YOUR MEN MAKE FOOLS OF YOU!
Croatoan • 9 days ago
When people see a list like this, they think "Oh no, what about freedom of religion?" That is an unalienable right in America's constitution. In Europe, the government's can do what they have to.
Timothy • 9 days ago
Way back in the 1990s, before the US invasion of Afghanistan, the burka was used as a symbol of the oppression of women that Western aid organizations were trying to fight there. Money was raised, and eventually a war was sold partly on the notion that women deserve more than a sack over their heads. So it's a little late now for those same types of people and institutions to be changing their tune, and saying no, the Burka's fine after all, sorry about all the "liberation" talk.
Pootick • 9 days ago
The most intolerant people in the world always seem to be screaming for tolerance for themselves due to religious reasons . Wear your garb in the Middle East . If you want to enjoy the freedoms that the west has to offer , you must give in return . I know this is counter to Islamic teachings but hey , it's the right thing to do . I wonder if any of them ever stop to wonder why islamists are the most reviled people in the world ? If you must wear those silly things , you can always go back to that ceaseless war zone you call home .
Robert Moretti • 9 days ago
Based on what I've seen of middle-eastern women, I'm all for the burkha. The full body kind that you wear like a tent over your entire body.
Joe Mazzurco • 9 days ago
Now let's talk about the muslim nations and the western styles of dress that they ban.
OldBoris Barry • 9 days ago
Not necessarily true - they've just refused, a few years ago, to grant Islam a status as an official religion because there aren't enough adherents, meaning Muslims aren't given the rights given to adherents of larger religions. Still, it is hard to see it as anything other than a national-defensive measure, seeing as most Angolans are Christians and the Muslims in Angola are nearly all foreigners.
p1t1o OldBoris • 9 days ago
You beat me to it, this is what I had:Thats not quite right:"In November 2013, Angolan foreign minister Georges Chikoti said that there were eight Islamic denominations in Angola, but none met the legal requirements for registration, and "so they can't practice their faith until concluding the process". Chikoti states that some Muslim groups had not registered their mosques officially, but did not specify which legal requirements they had not met."The Angolan constitution otherwise guarantees religious freedom.
Roadside Romeo • 9 days ago
I personally do not have any reverence for Islam. I'm against the general ideology. But I wouldn't call a ban on a particular kind of clothing. It's a person's personal choice whether or not I am in agreement with it's relevance or significance. I personally don't like that attire, but I have no right to steal someone's right to wear a piece of clothing they choose to wear. It is against the sole principle democracy is made of.
GHTdeF • 9 days ago
I wouldn't be so indisposed to Islamic dress if the men displayed similar modesty such as in Saudi Arabia but you see men in shorts and t-shirts walking with women wearing more covering than a penitante....I think the dress is more properly defined as cultural rather than religious in any case
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Misanthropia • 9 days ago
It's funny how things don't always play out the way we expect. I remember my pre hijab days. I was a self body policing mess, placing my mood on how good my hair was done on a certain day. I was less confident, made myself smaller, took up less space in people's lives and in my own. But when I started hijab, I became someone else really. I became louder, more vocal about things, more likely to speak my mind instead of censoring myself or softening my words.
p1t1o Misanthropia • 9 days ago
It sounds like a hijab has allowed you "to be yourself" but what I am hearing is that even in a burka, your behaviour is still controlled by your clothes.People are *supposed* to censor themselves to a degree, it is undeniably an important social skill.I dont want to make any assumption as to why an un-hijabbed woman would be made to feel small.I hope I didn't make any offence.
Misanthropia p1t1o • 9 days ago
Yes we censor ourselves to a degree. That is natural. But being unconfident and retiring, especially in today's world isn't good either. I'm not someone who is rude or likes to behave anti socially but I'm not going to hide my colours either and not enjoy myself.
p1t1o Misanthropia • 9 days ago
Agreed, but one ought to be able to do that in any attire.I know its not as simple as that though.
Misanthropia p1t1o • 9 days ago
Well yeah. I agree, but I guess I had to put it on to realise stuff. Life works in weird ways sometimes
Phil Giordana Fcd Misanthropia • 8 days ago
"Nobody cared who I was before I put on the mask".-Bane
Misanthropia Phil Giordana Fcd • 8 days ago
Exactly. Also sometimes there are things that happen that bring out the real you.
Kevin • 9 days ago
Belgium really didn't need to change the law to ban the burqu. It was already against the law to cover your face in public except during carnival.
Rishabh Jain • 9 days ago
"We believe that it is extremely misogynistic to mandate how a woman dresses, and therefore have decided to ban women from wearing the burqa. It must be noted that we are being entirely serious, and that you are not, rest assured, watching an episode of the Colbert Report."
Anomandaris Rishabh Jain • 8 days ago
Well if the muslims don't like it, they can get the fuck out and go home to their Islamic paradise. I think thats a solution everybody can rally behind.
Iqbal • 7 days ago
We must ban all Islamic people and influence, and force those who wan to live to pick among three religions, Zeus, Odin or Cthulhu.
RubyBlue7 Iqbal • 7 days ago
...which aren't religions at all.I'm hoping that you're speaking sarcastically.
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